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on what could be a pivotal moment in our journey a in that part of the world with greta van susteren live from washington, d.c. in six seconds. >> greta: this is a fox news alert it could happen at any moment. the commander and chief sending a clear message that he, quote: has an obligation to act on syria. although at this hour the president insisting he has not made up his mind, fox's leland vittert is following development in the region from jerusalem. leland, what is the latest there? >> greta it, certainly seems like it is going to happen at night and every night since this crisis has begun. people here in israel and around the region have waited almost with baited breath trying to see and think when the u.s. might strike. in fact, the newspapers here in israel probably have it the best the headlines here in hebrew now comes the tense wait
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people lining up for gas masks. people lined up yesterday to pick up gas masks in case president assad decides to make good on his threat to have tel aviv burn if he is attacked. obviously the syrians have a large chemical weapons stockpile which they could draw from if think chose a tack israel. not everyone got gas masks the u.s. military is also on high alert. missile defense system into position not only to protect the northern part of the country but tel aviv as well. the military has cancelled weekend leave for a number of essential soldiers saying they must remain on base and on alert. the israelis walking a very fine line between being prepared and also trying to keep the public from panicking. inside syria, we know the syrian military has used the past couple of days to move men, to move equipment, evacuate headquarters or anything they think could be a
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target. they are trying to clear out including moving a lot of their scud missiles into mountainous positions there with their launchers so they could possibly retaliate. also making it much harder for the united states to destroy a lot of the syrian military very quickly. he we are also hearing they have moved some of their chemical weapons stockpile out of their storage facility into other facilities that could certainly complicate the targeting for the u.s. military as they want to make sure they don't hit any of those stockpiles and have the chemical weapons then be released released in tt area. probably the big thing coming in the next couple of hours is the u.n. weapons enemiers. they had been on the ground in syria for the past couple of days now. taking samples, trying to conclude what type of gas was used. those kind of things. they concluded all of their work on friday in damascus. saturday morning, which it already is here in the middle east, they are expected to leave. that would probably be the last obstacle in terms of ordering a military strike or one of the things that the president was waiting
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for in terms of getting anybody who could be taken hostage out of syria before any type of military strike happened. there is certainly a feeling here that this could happen at any minute as one commentator just said he said after listening to john kerry's speech he said well, it's time for the talk to end and the tomahawks, that's being the tomahawk crews cruise missiles to fly, greta? >> thank you. what does the just declassified intelligence show chief washington correspondent james rosen joins us. >> nice to see you. >> greta: what is the information that we got today? >> we got a four page unclassified does yea that the administration gave us. it's called a u.s. government assessment of the syrian government's use of chemical weapons on august 21st. that right off the bat is a little unusual. these kind of documents don't usually carry the title a u.s. government assessment. we were told this was a product of the intelligence community. normally those take the form of nies.
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national intelligence estimate. that's strange off the bat. background of the chemical weapons program. the preparations for the attack. the duration of the attack and intelligence relating to the post attack period. the preparations for the attack is very interesting. the report states flatly in the three days prior to the attack we, meaning the united states intelligence community, collected streams of human signals and geo spatial intelligence that reveal regime activities that we assess associated with preparations for chemical weapons attack. that raises the question. you you were collecting all this information, you tell us in the three days prior to the attack we collected these streams. did anyone raise a warning? if so, how high up the chain did that go? if not, why not? and what we have heard back from the intelligence community after questioning them on this is that it didn't really make sense as to what it was all about until after word. >> i suspect also there is a risk. always -- it's so much easier 20/20 hindsight to say why didn't you notice this? first the question is what would he have done if we
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had three days to act. that's the first thing. second thing is maybe we hear it all the time that particular information so, it didn't have -- it wasn't particularly -- bits and pieces. a lot easier to figure out later that -- so it seems so obvious later. >> sure, you know from covering some of these things that one of the first things that gets sounded after there is some kind of catastrophic event is ah, but there was a warning. one other oddity about this four page document we received is that it says at the bottom of page 1 and i quote: we will continue to seek additional information to close gaps in our understanding of what took place. what are those gaps? >> in looking at the document and obviously it is not fully declassified. even secretary kerry said that today is there anything there you are thinking like what isn't in there and why isn't it in there or not? >> well, for example they make reference to intercepts from the post attack period whereby we learned that officials in the syrian government were calling up members of the unit that actually is in charge of the chemical
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weapons and, nescience saying why did you do this? and then also during the attack in fact there is an intercept to the effect that showing there was an order to cease the use of the chemical weapons. but, how we got those intercepts, what they actually say, how we process them, a lot of that is missing from here. and as they always do they cite sources and methods. >> secretary k least made plain i thought today that he and president obama believed, they are certainly highly competent that chemical weapons were used by the assad are a jeevment the only question is can they persuade capitol hill and whether or not it's wise to do anything. >> or will they wait for a chance even to persuade capitol hill? capitol hill doesn't come back here until monday. >> indeed, it doesn't. of course we know what the brits think and that the toy has said no and the brits say. no the u.n. says they are going to wait. it's interesting because secretary kerry said today that the u.n. isn't even -- they are just determining whether there were chemical weapons used not who used them which is, of course, a significant issue. anyway, james, thank you.
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>> thank you. >> greta: today's senator mike lee tweeting if the president cannot convince congress that the syrian crisis threatens our national security military intervention should be off the table. senator lee joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> thank you very much, greta. >> what does the president have to do to convince you, sir? what's needed? >> well, he has got to demonstrate to me and other members of congress that this is in the national security interest of the american people. of americans themselves. not just that mr. assad is a bad guy. we know that we know that to be true. but that doesn't justify putting our own people in harm's way. that doesn't justify our own military intervention. he needs to show us it's in our national security interest that we have got to do. this and i would add to that he needs to come to congress and make that case to congress. seems unlikely at least for a limited strike that our people would be in harm's way. the question of national
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security again to play devil's advocate with you is a rather fluid concept and some might and if you want to be very fluid about it you might say that any sort of danger to israel is in our national security since we sore close to israel or if we have refugees flowing into turkey. flowing into jordan and that has been going on and that is creating an imbalance or instability in the region which has an impact on our national security. all, i mean, national security is a very fluid concept, depending on who is arguing for it do you agree or disagree with that? >> okay, sure, sure. maybe there is some fluid at this in the concept. but he hasn't even been making that case. i haven't even heard the case for american national security in this. what i have heard is that this violates some abstract international norms. that's all well and good. that's fine for academic discussion. greta, the use of military force is the most serious exercise of our national sovereignty. it can't be taken without the support of congress and without the support of the american people. >> one of the things that i would be looking for if i were in congress, you know,
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in terms of not just the issue of whether or not it meets some national security test or whether it national security in my mind, but what are we going to achieve by it? that's, i think is, an extremely important thing. if we go, in we are not looking for regime change according to the president. so assad is still going to be there. we are not going to hit the chemical stockpiles for obvious reasons. don't create problems. and going to send tomahawk missiles in there who can't get underground bunkers and can't get moving targets which are the launchers of those chemical weapons. what do we hope to sort of achieve at the end of the day? that's what i would demand from the president. tell me what we are going to get. >> he can't promise us any particular outcome that would make americans safer. now, using military force in syria, just for the sake of maintaining the president's own personal credibility, he is simply not a strong enough reason to intervene. if he can't tell us what victory looks like and can't show us that that victory will make us safer. he has absolutely no
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business getting our military personnel involved in a conflict. one that could prove very costly. not only in dollars but in terms of potentially of lives, including lives of americans. >> it's not going to be cheap. at least we are hearing it to be 200 cruise missiles about a 1.5 million a apiece. that's just the raw material of the cruise missiles. i don't know if that's remotely close. but could i know this would be very costly. in the event that the president doesn't get any sort of approval or authorization from congress and he goes ahead and does it like other presidents before have done it, what are you going to do? >> well, i don't know. i will say this this has come up in town hall meetings that i have been conducting throughout my state. utah over the last few weeks. and people throughout my state are reallyup set about. this they do not want the president going to it war without congress' authorization. and so i'm not sure what the consequence will be. but the consequences will be there they may come in
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the form of a funding decision. they may come in some other form. but he will face consequences if he does this. >> what's the difference between a cruise missile into syria and a drone into yemen? >> well, you know, they are different equipment platforms. i'm not sure. >> greta: the whole idea of the authority of the president. >> well, here what we are talking about when we are talking about some kind of a military action designed to weaken the military infrastructure of an incumbent government on foreign sovereign soil. regardless of how you define an act of war, at some point you cross into the threshold of a war when you are trying to topple or at least weaken the incumbent government of a foreign sovereign nation when acting on foreign soil. that's what he is proposing here in one way or another. >> greta: senator,thank you
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sir. >> thank you very much. >> what would an attack look like. major general bob scales joins us. >> thank you, greta. >> greta: leland vittert says that right now syria, at least we are hearing moving men, equipment evacuation and launchers chemical weapons stockpiles. i understand, correct me if i am right, cruise missiles the one thing they're not good for is movable targets and underground bunkers, right? >> they are not good at cratering airfields. they are not terribly good at taking out any type of reenfoursed target. only like 250 pounds of tnt in these things. and they have to be programmed. they have to be targeted. it's a process. and it takes, you know, several minutes for it to get to the target it can't hit anything that moves, greta. >> greta: so, why is this sort of the weapon of choice? because, i mean, this seems to me like it's a little bit like this is almost like and i hate to be so crass, but this is like an earthquake without notice. going to topple a best of your knowledge of buildings.
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>> frankly it's safe. >> greta: earthquake with notice, rather. >> frankly it's safe. >> greta: what? >> thousand miles lobbying unmanned system against the syrians, flying underneath their antiaircraft umbrella and striking target? >> the whole point of doing this is try attorney general chief a particular goal. >> that's right. what would be the goal here? >> to send a message. the goal is to send a message and that's actually coming from the administration. the purpose of this strike is to send a message and to maintain american credibility in the region. >> how do we maintain credibility if we just knock down a couple of buildings? we vat same guy in charge there launcher and chemical weapons. it's actually become sort of a recruitment that they show pictures of civilians that were hurt. >> so after the dust settles, the syrians all look at themselves and say wow, that wasn't bad. let's continue the
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campaign. let's keep -- start killing our people again using conventional weapons. because that seems to be okay. and then what does the united states do? pinprick against the syrians. we strike empty buildings and we strike airfields. and then assad still is in power. maybe even stronger in the minds of the syrian people and then what do we do? we do nothing. >> and, of course, i was reading the headlines in the english speaking papers in iran. and they talk about how one of them says foreign ministry in iran says what kerry presented today is based on old stories published by terrorists over a week ago. russia says russia u.s. threats of using force against syria are unacceptable. they talk about us starting a regional war. right now the campaign against us before we have even destroyed a building is already -- i'm okay if we are achieving some particular goal. we are still going to have chemical weapons.
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launchers to do them and assad in position. >> one of the great ironies is when this is all over, we may very well be reinforcing and making stronger the very people on the opposition who hate us. >> this is the middle east, i understand. that, that. this is absolutely off the table. this there are no american vital strategic interests at play in this strike. none whatsoever. >> is there any instance in recent history where a limited strike and that's what this is considered to be, limited strike has achieved some very important strategic national goal? >> limited strikes do only one thing. they lead to further limited strikes and perhaps even to war. why is that? because the enemy has a vote. and the enemy can react as you have just described by running away, scattering, going to ground, hiding and moving away from the strike and now the ball is in his court. and what does he do? does he strike israel? does he go back to kill his people? i mean, the horizons are
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unlimited for the syrian army now because they have done one thing and done it well in the eyes of the arab people. they have stood up to the great satan and they have survived it and they have continued to fight. >> if you are going to strike you better strike hard. >> if you are going to attack the snake you cut off his head not his tail. >> general scales, thank you, sir. >> thank you, greta. >> greta: even some democrats are denying president obama gave congressional approval congressman joe laughlin joins us. good evening, congresswoman. >> good evening, greta. >> greta: i understand you want the approval by the president to take any military action. why? >> well, the constitution requires it and the war powers act requires that corning vote before military action is engaged in unless the united states has been attacked and clearly we have not been attacked. so the law requires it. but, more than that, you know, our system of government requires it the american people right now
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are not for this and if the president thinks it's the right thing for our country to do. he needs to make his case to the congress and in doing so make his case to the american people. be very unwise to move forward without that support. >> >> greta: is doing a limited attack such as lobbing cruise missiles and the president hasn't made a decision. it may be just what we assume he is going to do even for a short period of time is that an act of war? >> let me ask you, this greta. if somebody dumped cruise missiles on washington, d.c. only for a day, would we consider that not an act of war? >> greta: i would. i certainly. would i must confess because the whole issue and i don't know if it even matters but, you know, sort of international law when is it okay to drop missiles on somebody? >> well, this in this isn't
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a international law. the president should not initiate war hostilities without a vote of the congress. wanting to talk about international law we don't have a resolution from the u.n. security council and, in fact, the u.n. has asked that no action be commenced until the inspectors not only are gone but submit their report. we would be acting in violation of international law as well as american law let me just say people have suggested and i signed a letter urging the president to consult congress. my question is this, why doesn't speaker boehner call us back into session next monday? he, as the speaker, has the power to reconvene the house at any time. if he doesn't do that i can only assume that he is game for the president moving forward without congressional authority. >> greta: i'm with you on that. i think he should have
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asked you back earlier than that i'm here tonight anyway. thank you for joining us, and obviously we are all watching this one extremely closely. thank you. >> thanks very much. >> greta: straight ahead, should the u.s. strike sir? the experts are here. graham, bolton oliver north are all here to go "on the record." what does former president george w. bush think about the crisis in syria and the decision president obama must make? you're going to hear from president george w. bush(wom coming up. let me help you out h the.. (woman)...oh no, i got it. (man) you sure? (woman) just pop the trunk. (man vo) i may not know where the road will lead, but... i'm sure my subaru will get me there. (announcer) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. ♪
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rather bleak in terms of getting allies. >> it's bleak, actually. they will be cheering us on, perhaps. as of now, it will be united states operation. so you have the obama administration with people like joe biden and john kerry who spent years criticizing the bush administration for its unilateralism, doing something that true solid unilateral as opposed to things done in the bush administration like the overthrow of saddam hussein is that had dozens of coalition members with it. >> i asked neither lee. this what's the difference between doing in this way and dropping a drone on somebody in yemen, just on a kill list? >> look, there isn't any difference. the president has full constitutional authority to launch this attack against syria. >> greta: you don't think he has to seek approval? >> absolutely not. >> greta: you disagree with a lot of members of congress who want the approval. >> there is a political question whether he would be better off in getting congressional approval under the theory in on the the take off, in on the
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landing. but as a matter of constitutional law, there is absolutely no requirement if congress doesn't like what he does. they should cut off 00 funds. >> greta: i thought today that secretary kerry whether you agreed with him or not looked presidential. i thought it looked bad for the president get a taped comment from him sitting around the table with a bunch of people. i thought the visual was so lousy. >> i think the only thing president obama wants to do here is check the box that he has done something because the assad regime violated the red line against using chemical weapons. i think this is shaping up to dissident use of military force in american history. i think that's why the president won't go out front on it. i think you can attribute in part prime minister david cammeron's hue mill quation in the house of commons yesterday to the fact that the american president had not made the case effectively. >> greta: how america is perceived in the world matters, you agree? >> exactly. >> greta: in light of the fact that the president has gotten himself boxed in on
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this one by his red line and saber rattling and now he can't get anyone to help him. can we help him out of this one before we go? can you think some way where he can extricate himself, retain credibility of the world so we don't look like headlines tomorrow syria scared us and we ran away with the tail between our legs? how do we get out of this. >> his credibility is irrepair shall damaged. >> he represents the united states. >> i don't think it's reparable. i think what we have to do now is explain to the rest of the world that basically we are in a 1200 day period when the president is not going to be effective but that that doesn't mean that america can't be reinstated into its proper place once you get a real president in washington. i don't think you can look at a president like this. he is not going to change in the last 1200 days. it's just going to get worse. >> greta: you should see the headlines all over the middle east right now. no matter how much
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exaggerating and still what everybody is reading. >> there i don't think this particular episode is so much worse than the last four and a half years. i think. >> greta: it's right in our face right now. >> emblematic of president president's comfort level with a declining less powerful america. because he thinks that it's america's strength in the world that causes the problem. so, a weaker america will lead to a more peaceful world. that's his view. >> greta: what's the best thing that could happened from a limited strike? if everything went the president's way, what happens? >> the best that could happen would be that iran and others do draw the conclusion that there is a price to be paid for pursuing weapons of mass destruction. nuclear chemical or biological. i think there is almost zero chance they will draw that lesson. in fact, i think the odds are almost overwhelming that they will draw the wrong conclusion, that they can get away with it. >> greta: thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> greta: coming up, what action should the u.s. take with syria. senator lindsey graham is not wavering. he is here to go "on the record" next. lt. colonel oliver north
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for free games, crafts, and seminars. >> greta: this is a fox news alert. warships are ready to strike syria and president obama is consulting with the american allies. senator lindsey graham says quoted now is the time for decisive actions. so what actions should the u.s. take. senator lindsey graham joins us. good evening, sir. >> thank you, greta. >> greta: sir, what do you think could possibly be achieved? because now here is the situation we are. in we have now told president assad we are not going to get rid of him. a very short duration. no boots on the ground and what's our goal what are we going to achieve if we do cruise missile attacks? >> nothing but reinforce that we are weak. you nailed it the president painted him stfl in a corner 2012 when he told assad you better not use chemical weapons. a year later why would assad use chemical weapons
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after being told by obama not to. in the last year he has used chemical weapons assad has and we have done nothing. in the last year i think president obama is convinced radical islamists that we really don't mean -- that we're not coming their way. after benghazi when four americans were killed, our ambassador no one held to account. we sent all the wrong signals, benghazi pulling out of iraq. assad has summed up obama and he sees this i don't believe the guy means what he says. a weak response by the president reinforces a longer war and a longer this war goes on the more likely chemical weapons get in the hands of terrorist organizations the king of jordan is likely to fall. lebanon falling apart because of serious cancer. the president has mishandled this as badly as he could. quite frankly the chickens have come home to roost of
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obama's foreign policy leading from behind. a pinprick strike, giving an aspirin to a person who has cancer is the worst of all worlds. >> greta: the strike as we understand is going to be this is what is so baffling to me. >> mind boggling isn't it. yeah right. >> greta: tomahawk cruise missiles that can't hit moving target and can't hit underground bunkers. assad who we're not even trying to get rid of under this project is going to go in an underground bunker. we're not going to get the launchers for the chemical weapons. and we're not going after the chemical weapons themselves. so, we knock down a couple military buildings and a couple things, 24 hours. that's over. the president then goes off to the g-it 0. they clean up the rubble. the president just gets rally the troops and says look how horrible americans are and shows issues of dead children we have killed. >> this is a response by the president that he is having to do because he painted himself in a corner.
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it's not a logical response to a real problem. how many times you have heard the israelis tell the enemy here is where would are going to hit you and how long we are going to hit you. here are the the weapons we are going to use and promise it won't last long. never in the history of the operations has a military campaign been successful when you tell the enemy exactly what you are doing. now he has painted himself in the corner with a response. he has told the entire world it will be limited in nature. military response. worse of all worlds. barack obama has put the american national security interest in syria throughout the region in the worst possible position it could be. >> greta: we only have 30 seconds left. of course, he even had a little problem within his own party. democrats who want answers. you know, they want a robust debate on capitol hill. what i wanted is a decisive action before it's too late. iran is watching every move we make in syria.
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to say what we do in syria doesn't affect iranian behavior is just unrealistic. we are -- weakness in syria makes it more likely iranians with l. march more likely. his effort to avoid war obama spread war. his effort to reach out and make peace we have gotten the finger. at the end of the day he really thought he could go into the middle east, not be like bush. give speeches and charm people. it hasn't worked. radical islamists are not taking obama seriously. this war is going to spread outside of syria this weak response is going to make things worse not better. >> snearkts thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> how would a strike on syria go down? lt. colonel oliver north joins us. colonel, i want to ask you basically from what senator lindsey graham said, we are where we are in this mess of o -- whatever it is. so, what is the president going to do and what could he do in light of everything that's going on right now? >> well.
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>> give an exit strategy that's good for america. >> after the kerry speech today, everybody thought he decided to postpone it and i don't think he has. >> greta: see, i actually thought kerry's speech was a warning that we're not going to pay attention to the u.n. full speed ahead. >> setting up the obama presser where he says i haven't decided. he has decided. he is going to go ahead with a very very limited strike. that's going to make him feel better. here is what cruise missiles do in these kinds of situations. they make weak presidents look like in the mirror he they're stronger. in reality is the enemy knows better. senator graham pointed out assad knows exactly what's going on. worst of all in this, greta, the cruise missiles are going to strike targets around syria but not ones you really need. >> greta: they are not going to do the underground bunker or launcher. >> biggest civil base outside of russia. okay? it was built by the soviets back in the bad old days. used by the russian navy
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today. keep saying that, slipping into mr. putin and putin does not want that base hit so it won't be. on top of that, this is a war, a civil war that is being run by an outside party. the outside party is the islamic revolutionary guard corps headquartered in tehran. we're not going to hit tehran. tehran is the one -- they are the ones calling the shots how the syrians fight. this. >> greta: what can we do? we're in the spot we are. in what do we do? >> actually, it would take guts ball for this guy to look into the camera and said i should not have said anything about a red line, what i am going to do taksim immediately beef up the security after the every one of my embassies all over the middle east and africa. because as you and i both know in nine days you have the eve of another 9/11 attack. and those anniversaries really are important to the bad guys. so do that imimmediately. second of all, go to the israelis right now and say i'm going to pull back my horns. you have got the southern part of that country targeted. you take care of the things that you need to take care of to make sure you are not
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going to get hit as a reprisal. syria can't come after us, but the iranians can go after the israelis. not in israel but all around the rest. and every israeli embassy on the planet. lastly, what this president needs to do should do right away. go to the house permanent select committee on intelligence. the senate select committee with a covert action finding says i want my risk averse intelligence agencies to immediately hire 1,000 contractors civilians who are military people who have gotten out who speak the language and there are thousands of them who now looking for something to do in an economies that her turned around and put them to work recruiting, training and fielding a real syrian freedom fighter movement. it can be done. those people are out there. they have just not been giving any weapons by our nato ally in turkey. >> greta: i mean, i don't see how, you know, how -- how that works, but anyway. >> i know a little something about freedom fighter. >> greta: i know.
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i was going to say i was trying to figure out how to get myself out of that one. >> it's not going to finish easily. it's a bad situation. >> greta: indeed. colonel nice to see you as always. >> you too. >> we are so far away. don't you really want to know what it's like on that syrian border. one congressman saw it days ago he goes "on the record" next. what does president george w. bush think of syrian president bashir al assad. he is going to tell you himself straight ahead. higher ♪ ♪ take me to the mountains, start a revolution ♪ ♪ hold my hand, we can make, we can make a contribution ♪ ♪ brand-new season, keep it in motion ♪ ♪ 'cause the rhyme is the reason ♪ ♪ break through, man, it doesn't matter who you're talking to ♪ [ male announcer ] completely redesigned for whatever you love to do. the all-new nissan versa note. your door to more. ♪ your door to more. fby eating healthier, drinking plenty of water, but still not getting relief? try dulcolax laxative tablets.
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let's do our homework. ♪ let's look out for each other. let's look both ways before crossing. ♪ let's remember what's important. let's be optimistic. but just in case -- let's be ready. let'go places, safely. >> live from america's news headquarters i'm marianne rafferty at this. new satellite photos show north korea is updating the site where it conducted first successful rocket launch last september. u.s. institute six construction sites one which appears to be a new launch pad for testing mobile ballistic missiles. stocks slipping again end hing the worst month for the market in years. nasdaq s&p all falling friday. americans' income and
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spending barely rose in july. and disgraced san diego mayor bob filner stepping down today after only nine months on the job. resignation coming after nearly 20 women accused him of making unsuccessful sexual advances, mayor filner maintains is he innocent. i'm marianne rafferty now back to "on the record" for all your latest headlines log in to foxnews.com. >> greta: california congressman duncan hunter just got back from the syrian border. what did he see there? what's it like. congressman hunter joins us. good evening, sir. >> hey, it was interesting. i will tell you that the biggest thing that we saw there and i was there with the democrat ranking member of the armed services committee adam smith. we went to abu daby in afghanistan after that here is what is happening there the jordanians who are our friends, they allow women to vote. they don't stone people in public. they have liquor stores. they are very secular country in the middle east, and he they are kind of the buffer zone in between
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syria and the rest of the middle east. they are verging on disaster right now. i have talked to the crowned prince of abu dab buy and other folks who said as jordan goes so goes the rest of the middle east. jordan is being destabilized right now by what's happening in syria. and that's what we see. we saw a refugee camp there with the 120,000 syrian refugees. who were quite ungrateful, frankly for the assistance that the america and our international friends have put into that refugee camp. but that's what's happening there. they basically closed off the border. and now there is no outlet for the refugees that are trying to leave the violence and the destruction. >> all right. you have had an experience that the rest of us haven't had. have you been to refugee camps in the border recent time very recent a couple days ago. decide yet doesn't matter
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what i think the president all the members in congress u.s. marine that haven't been there can get the secret briefs. there is know way that you can learn all the information that you need to learn at open source level. every congressman needs a top secret brief to understand what's going on by the cia, the dia, the dod, state department. and then congress needs to vote on this to either grant the president the authority to do military strikes or not. and i would disagree with lindsey graham and oliver north on one thing. cruise missiles can effect things like the air force because right now one of the other things that i learned over there is assad is winning. he is beating the opposition forces right now. so if you were able to militarily degrade assad's
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air force or his armor, that would be a good thing. >> rough shot over the opposition. we already warned chemical weapons. they are as far underground as they can be. so are things like that. we can degrade his conventional military forces which would give the opposition more of a chance. and long term wise, colonel north has it right. we need to allow our friends in the area, the elm righties elm rights and jordanians after assad either leaves or is removed two weeks to two years, we want to make sure that we have some influence on the force that is able to occupy damascus and hold it while everything settles down and they try to have some type of a islamic democratic republic as well as they can. america should have an influence in that one of the ways that we do that is by training the folks who will go in and hold damascus so that it doesn't go crazy and al qaeda then
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gets all of those chemical weapons. because we have got to make sure that the right guys get in charge there after all is said and done. that's a long term issue. >> greta: i have to go. i appreciate you being there and perspective to this that i simply don't have. i wasn't there in the last couple days, thank you, sir. >> thank you, greta. >> straight ahead. is president obama losing more support in syria each day and is there anything he can do to get washington on his side?
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an attack on syria growing, can the president do anything to gain support in carl joins us. how do you describe the president's support on capitol hill? >> sort of slipping and slipping quite fast. right now, the opposition to any operation in syria, there was met with some resistance, but as soon as the white house started revealing more details as far as the chemical attacks that may prompt this type of action, it seems like support for any type of military strike in syria has really gone down fast. >> with the revelation there's chemical weapons, that's his
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reason going forward, so i would think the more support he has, may chip off a few more in his horner. >> while the use of the weapons has been a big deal, while it comes to lawmakers on capitol hill, the connection between that and u.s. priority, it seems to be not that clear. the more the president tries to make that connection, the more the disconnect seems to be growing. >> when he said he's not going for regime change and doesn't have our biggest allies going with him, that hurts. not that everyone's a big fan of the u.n., but the u.n.'s not interested. the only one that seems to be interested is the president and a handful of others. >> yeah. it's definitely not the coalition that the administration was looking to build ahead of these strikes, but again, these different allies sort of falling off, it seems at that same time, the
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administration's even more willing to press ahead even if they have to go it alone or with an ally like france. >> see speaker boehner calling the men soon? >> it's getting to be more and more of a possibility even as the chance of military action goes up. whether or not speaker boehner can bring lawmakers back to washington in time, we'll have to see. >> any way, carl, nice to see you, sir. >> thank you. >> straight ahead, how does former president bush describe? it works, simple as that. it's a natural source of fiber and five essential vitamins. it's the smart choice for me. stay fit on the inside with sunsweet's amazing juices. [ male annouer ] let's go places.
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what does president bush think of the crisis in syria in. >> do you see what's happening with syria right now, i know you don't like to comment about what's in the news, but you can comment on the sifr area yyria with. >> the president's got a tough choice to make and if he decides to use our military, he'll have the greatest military ever. backing him up.
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>> right. what has syria been like in the eight years you served. there's no doubt about that. >> i was not a fan of mr. assad. he's a ally of iran and he's made mischief. >> made mischief for a long time, he felt impervious to america. >> and the president's going to have to make a tough decision. >> and what about the rest of the world saying, not too sure. wait for the u.n. you've been through that before. >> president has to make a tough call. i know you're trying to subtly rope me into the issues of the day. i refuse to be roped in. >> i understand. your unique perspective at the leadership level, which very few people get. >> putting our military in harm's way is the toughest decision a president will make.
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>> thanks for being with us. a live edition of hannity is next. meantime, go to gretawired.com. good night. this is a fox news alert. tonight, despite the tough rhetoric from the whourks president obama has still not announced a decision about what, if any, military action he's going to take against the syrian regime. i'm tucker in for sean. earlier today, the administration released part of an intelligence report and moments later, the president had this to say. >> as you've seen, today, we've released our unclassified assessment detailing with high confidence that the syrian regime carried out a chemical weapon that killed well over 1,000 people, including hundreds of children. this kind of